PSA: Discord has added an Arbitration Clause to thier Terms of Service

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    THE LAST DAY TO OPT-OUT IS NOVEMBER 18, 2018. AFTER THIS DATE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE OPTION TO OPT-OUT.

    PSA: Discord has added an arbitration clause to their TOS. This gives them the ability to set the terms for how a legal proceeding can be put against them. Essentially:
    1. Your right to complain in a court of law is made much more difficult. The new discord Terms of Service specifically state "ARBITRATION MEANS THAT YOU WAIVE YOUR RIGHT TO A JURY TRIAL"
    2. Arbitration courts tend to favor corporations rather than consumers.
    3. Your right to complain as part of a pool of clients is taken away. You will not be able to be part of a Class Action lawsuit if Discord does something that can cause them to be sued by a large set of people.
    Why should I care?
    This clause greatly affects you ability to hold discord responsible in a court of law. As a corporation, they should generally not have many incidents that could cause them to become liable. The arbitration clauses act as a company's defense against losing money when they do something that can cause them to be sued by many people. This is allowed in the United States by AT&T Mobility LLC v. Concepcion, a Supreme Court Case in 2011.
    Who does this affect?
    For the most part, this only affects American Users of Discord. The European Union has many clauses that prevent companies from setting these types if things up, specifically GPDR Clause 77.

    DO KEEP IN MIND, DELETING OR DEACTIVATING YOUR ACCOUNT DOES NOT OPT YOU OUT OF THE CLAUSE

    What can I do?
    Discord has made a mailbox for people who want to send in opt-outs for the arbitration to. the address is "[email protected]". For the most part you should be able to just send a email there, and be opted-out. You can also find below a template that you can use to make the request more formal.


    If you have any questions, post them in this thread. Also, if you want to read the Full Text of the Arbitration Clause, you can find it below.

    PLEASE READ THIS SECTION CAREFULLY - IT MAY SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS, INCLUDING YOUR RIGHT TO FILE A LAWSUIT IN COURT.

    You and Discord agree that these Terms affect interstate commerce and that the Federal Arbitration Act governs the interpretation and enforcement of these arbitration provisions.

    Most disputes can be resolved without resorting to arbitration. In the event of a dispute, you agree to provide us notice of the dispute. This notice must provide a brief, written description of the dispute, the relief requested and the contact information of the party giving it. You must send any such notice to Discord by email to [email protected] and by U.S. Mail to Discord Inc., 444 De Haro Street #200, San Francisco, CA 94107.

    The parties agree to use their best efforts to settle any dispute, claim, question, or disagreement directly through consultation with one another, and good faith negotiations shall be a condition to either party initiating a lawsuit or arbitration.

    Notwithstanding the foregoing, disputes concerning patents, copyrights, moral rights, trademarks, and trade secrets and claims of piracy or unauthorized use of the Site shall not be subject to arbitration, and the notice and good faith negotiation required by this paragraph shall not apply to these types of disputes.

    Binding Arbitration. Except as provided herein, if we cannot resolve a dispute informally, any dispute will be resolved only by binding arbitration to be held in the U.S. state in which you reside. For residents outside the United States, arbitration shall be initiated in San Francisco, California. Discord and you further agree to submit to the personal jurisdiction of any state or federal court in San Francisco, California to compel arbitration, stay proceedings pending arbitration, or to confirm, modify, vacate, or enter judgment on the award entered by the arbitrator.

    The arbitration shall be conducted by a single arbitrator, governed by the rules of JAMS that are in effect at the time the arbitration is initiated (referred to as the “JAMS Rules”) and under the rules set forth in these Terms. If there is a conflict between the JAMS Rules and the rules set forth in these Terms, the rules set forth in these Terms will govern. ARBITRATION MEANS THAT YOU WAIVE YOUR RIGHT TO A JURY TRIAL. You may, in arbitration, seek any and all remedies otherwise available to you pursuant to your state’s law.

    To the extent the filing fee for the arbitration exceeds the cost of filing a lawsuit, Discord will pay the additional cost. Discord shall also bear the cost of any arbitration fees, unless the arbitrator finds your claims, defenses, or other fee-generating activity to be asserted or conducted for an improper purpose or frivolous. You are responsible for all other additional costs that you may incur in the arbitration including, without limitation, attorney’s fees and expert witness costs unless Discord is specifically required to pay such fees under applicable law. The decision of the arbitrator will be in writing and binding and conclusive on Discord and you, and judgment to enforce the decision may be entered by any court of competent jurisdiction. Discord and you agree that dispositive motions, including without limitation motions to dismiss and motions for summary judgment, will be allowed in the arbitration. The arbitrator must follow these Terms of Service and can award the same damages and relief as a court, including injunctive or other equitable relief and attorney’s fees. Discord and you understand that, absent this mandatory arbitration provision, Discord and you would have the right to sue in court and have a jury trial. Discord and you further understand that, in some instances, the costs of arbitration could exceed the costs of litigation and that the right to discovery may be more limited in arbitration than in court.

    If Discord’s or your claim is solely for monetary relief of $10,000 or less and does not include a request for any type of equitable remedy, the party bringing the claim may choose whether the arbitration of the claim will be conducted, through a telephonic hearing, or by an in-person hearing under the JAMS Rules, solely based on documents submitted to the arbitrator. You or Discord may choose to pursue a claim in small claims court where jurisdiction and venue over you and Discord otherwise qualifies for such small claims court and where the claim does not include a request for any type of equitable relief. However, if you decide to pursue a claim in small claims court, you agree to still provide Discord with advance notice by email to [email protected] and by U.S. Mail to Discord Inc., 444 De Haro Street #200, San Francisco, CA 94107.

    Opt-Out Right. You have the right to opt out and not be bound by the provisions requiring arbitration by sending written notice of your decision to opt out to Discord by email to [email protected]. The notice must be sent within 30 days of this Terms of Service taking effect, or your account creation on the Service. If you do not opt out via this method, you will be bound to arbitrate disputes in accordance with the terms of these paragraphs. If you opt out of the provisions requiring arbitration, Discord will not be bound by them either. If any clause within this Arbitration Section is found to be illegal or unenforceable, that specific clause will be severed from this section, and the remainder of its provisions will be given full force and effect.

    Survival. This Arbitration section shall survive any termination of your account or the Service.

    CLASS WAIVER
    PLEASE READ THIS SECTION CAREFULLY. IT MAY SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS.

    Discord and you agree to resolve any dispute will be brought in an individual capacity, and not on behalf of, or as part of, any purported class, consolidated, or representative proceeding. The arbitrator cannot combine more than one person’s or entity’s claims into a single case, and cannot preside over any consolidated, class or representative proceeding (unless we agree otherwise). And, the arbitrator’s decision or award in one person’s or entity’s case can only impact the person or entity that brought the claim, not other Discord customers, and cannot be used to decide other disputes with other customers.

    If any court or arbitrator determines that the class/consolidated/representative action waiver set forth in this section is void or unenforceable for any reason or that arbitration can proceed on a class, consolidated, or representative basis, then the disputes, claims, or controversies will not be subject to arbitration and must be litigated in federal court located in San Francisco, California. This Class Action Waiver section shall survive any termination of your account or the Services.
     
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    Literally takes 2 minutes to send an email and opt out, do it!
     
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    Not even 2 minutes! Thanks for the heads up. :^)
     
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    why do I care about this?
     
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    "This clause greatly affects you ability to hold discord responsible in a court of law. As a corporation, they should generally not have many incidents that could cause them to become liable. The arbitration clauses act as a company's defense against losing money when they do something that can cause them to be sued by many people. This is allowed in the United States by AT&T Mobility LLC v. Concepcion, a Supreme Court Case in 2011."
     
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    tl;dr if discord does shady shit with your information and a class action lawsuit is made, you can't participate. Not like that would stand in an actual court of law, but hey.
     

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